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Years ago, I listened to a series of R.C. Sproul audio tapes in which he discussed different worldviews. In it, he said that pragmatism, the “do whatever works” method of making decisions great and small, was the one uniquely American worldview. He said it sprang out of the Pilgrim/Pioneer grit-your-teeth-and-get-it-done experience.

I’ve seen an awful lot of American Christendom infected with this uniquely American worldview. In churches poor (build a gym and they will come), in churches rich (give them programs-a-plenty, and they will come), in churches liberal (tell them what they like to hear, and they will stay), in churches conservative (give a list, of things to be for or against, and they will stay). And so on.

And always, the question that drives decisions is, “what will work?” What will work to grow the church, or to stem the tide of our dwindling numbers, or to be more “relevant” to the world? Ad infinitum, ad nauseum. And of course, in our fully Madison Avenue-molded America, there are hundreds of “experts” out there to sell “purpose” or “program” ideas for “what works”.

And the church, in just about every corner, has embraced this uniquely American paradigm.

But since Christ has said He will build the church, both quantitatively and qualitatively, our abundance of fleshly sowing has given us an abundant fleshly harvest: one need only look at the sexual predations that have been exposed of late in evangelical circles, and even the growing elevation of folks in open sexual sin to positions of leadership in some churches to see just one area of how we’re reaping what we’ve sown.

Pragmatism is self will. And in America, it’s all for Jesus, of course.

On this first morning of Passover 2014, please Father, have mercy on us here in this nation.

Dancing

I recently had a friend describe her relationship to her adult 20-something children as “dancing”. As in: sometimes in, sometimes out, sometimes stepping on toes, sometimes their toes get stepped on. And the way she described it, they lead sometimes, and she leads sometimes.

While pondering that, I’ve come to think that parenting itself is like teaching your child to dance. When they’re young, you lead all the time, just as when you take dance lessons, the dance instructor always leads in the beginning. But as they get in their preteens and teens, you teach them to lead by becoming a follower. Just a little at first, but more and more as they get older. But you won’t really teach them to lead if you only give them the reins in what you want to do. Excepting sin, of course, we have to let them lead in what they want to do, and we have to stay engaged and let them lead us, not just their peers.

And perhaps if it’s done right, with the right amount of us leading, then them leading, when they’re adults they’ll want to do that sort of dance with us, the you-lead-sometimes and I-lead-sometimes dance that is the dance of adult friends.

But so many of us get it wrong, and continue to be the choreographers of the dance with them, always leading, throughout their teen years, or even into their adult years. But the fruit of that is that once they are adults and can lead, must lead to be adults, they don’t want to dance with you ever, unless they are leading. There is no first them, then you. It’s always them. Which is what you’ve taught them to do, by it being only you leading throughout their adolescence when you should have been teaching the adult give and take.

And they may not really want to dance with you anyway. They may look all over the room for anyone else to dance with besides you. Even though you brought them to the dance. And if they’re good kids, with a sense of what’s right and what’s wrong, they’ll come over to you 5 minutes before the dance is over and dance with you because they’ve noticed you watching them, even when you were dancing with another, and they know you’ve wanted to dance with them all night, and they know they should. But they’ll lead even then, because you didn’t teach them when they were young to share in the choreography.

We reap what we sow. Even later, when the Lord has shown us that we should have been doing the giving and taking with them all along, and we change, it will be too late, for they will only be able to think of us as the dance partner who always wants to lead, even if it’s not true anymore, by the grace and power of the Holy Spirit. August is too late to say, “oops, I should’ve planted more potatoes and less eggplant.”

We can only pray then, that the Lord will grant our adult children the wisdom to not make the same mistakes with their children, so that those children won’t have to claim their ground as adults by only leading with their parents all the time. And they won’t look at their parents as folks that they have to guard themselves against, lest they try to take over the lead and shut them out of adulthood again. We can only pray that our children’s children will desire to share in the lives and choreography of their dance with their parents.

And we can only pray that God will teach us new ways of preparing our abundance of eggplant.

Today I read an article by Ann Coulter about compassion-by-personal-experience (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ann-coulter/2013/05/08/ann-coulter-column-beware-evangelicals-liberal-clothing).

Now I tend to avoid Ann Coulter, normally. She is funny, in a sarcastic way, but too sharp for me. She is often jarring to my (I hope) Holy Spirit-led, “let this mind be in you” soul. But she is also often spot-on in her analysis, even if she is spot on with a black eye, instead of the persuasiveness that Paul encouraged Christians to have (1 Cor 9:12).

Anyway, in her article, she speaks of “evangelicals” that the media like to put on parade every few months about one topic or another, to try to convince Christian folks to get on the “reasonableness” bandwagon that this month’s token evangelical spokesperson is on. In the case of this article, the “reasonable” evangelical will be all for amnesty for illegal immigrants.

Ms. Coulter shares quotes from main stream press articles of folks who have met illegal aliens in their churches, and have come to “have compassion” on them, and so embrace amnesty-for-all as a solution to their suffering. That is, as a result of their personal encounter, they have come around to the “reasonable” conclusion that they should support open borders, amnesty for all, and no consequences for breaking the heretofore law.

In her article, Ms. Coulter deconstructs this idea, and she succinctly summarizes the flaw in this thinking with this: “Principles do not vary depending on personal circumstances.” She says this after another very insightful comment: “This new Christian ethic of compassion-by-personal-encounter is also bad news for the”… others whom those evangelicals have not had a personal encounter with. In this case, she cites the millions of American blue-collar workers unable to find work because of the massive illegal influx of illegal immigrants. But her phrase “new Christian ethic of compassion-by-personal-encounter” is well taken.

Of course, the model of the Christian’s compassion should be Christ. He had compassion upon the multitudes, because he perceived they were as sheep without a shepherd. But he didn’t meet each one personally, determine that because they were suffering at the hands of the Romans, or whatever, that he should advocate for that change. In fact, when a follower indicated that he had been cheated by a family member, His response was, “who made me a judge over you?” (Luke 12:13-14). His response wasn’t to go change the aggrieved man’s circumstances.

Christ’s form of compassion, which we will emulate more and more the longer we dwell in him and He in us, is compassion for all mankind, the seen and the unseen. Christ left the glories and beauties and perfections of heaven to be made in the debased image of man, in order that he might reconcile God and man. Now that is compassion! And it didn’t come as a result of personal experience with each of those humans, listening to their sad stories and then acting to eliminate their sadness. We get our personal experiences of God when we become part of His family. So his compassion does not require personal experience (see Matt 5:45).

Anyway, this is only one of several examples in Ms. Coulter’s article of how being moved by our emotions for the suffering of those we can see, can stop us from thinking about the suffering of those we can’t see. It’s similar to the mom of a serial killer who says her boy was always nice to her. She uses her own emotional feelings about her son to determine the truth about his character as a whole, and it obscures her ability to see the suffering of his victims.

Ann Coulter’s point is that those who do not think past their own emotional responses to something, are stymied in their understanding of whole truth, because they fail to see a greater principle beyond their own feelings.

My dear husband said recently that “principles are between God and man, but standards are between men and men”. He was referring to how in many Christian circles, men lay “standards” of behavior upon one another, and that they confuse those standards with principles. Principles are truths about God and His dealings with men. Standards are measurements that men lay upon men. Ms. Coulter’s article shows that this plays out in every sort of Christian body, not just the “standard-driven” ones that most readily come to mind.

That is, a standard is something to measure up to (hence the phrase “measure up to the standard”), and men give them to each other. But a principle is a thing to be guided by (hence the common phrase “a guiding principle”). God’s principles, like God the Holy Spirit himself, guide us. Man says “measure up”. God says, “follow me”.

The new emotion-driven “standards” in the church, perhaps based upon the emotions of those who might have felt rejected in the past, are “tolerance” and “acceptance” and “judge not…” and all of that. These are the new standards in the new evangelicalism.

Furthermore, all of this got me to thinking about how this plays out in other areas of my own Christian walk.

It is easy to unwittingly be guided my own experience, and the emotional response I have from it, as I judge scripture’s meaning. I have seen this in lots of Christian thinking (KJVOism, what folks wear/see/hear, etc.) I think even the Armininianist/Calvinist debate is a good illustration of the ability of experience and emotional response to determine the understanding of the scriptures.

The Arminianist apologist tends to emotionally be the self-doubter, what the personality gurus call a “melancholy”. Hence his tendency to focus on the “if you” passages of scripture.  The Calvinist apologist tends to have a more take-charge-full-of-confidence personality type. Hence his tendency to focus on the “done deal” passages of scripture. Emotionally, the Calvinist can be impatient and irritated by the self-examining, which can all-too-often strike them as self-absorbed and thereby humanistic. (And lest I have offended anyone in either camp, I only give this by example as another illustration of how emotion affects understanding of the scriptures.)

Each of us, by personality, responds to the same input differently. Thomas doubted the Lord, Peter rebuked the Lord, John tried to manipulate the Lord (with his brother and mom), etc. They all experienced the same God-in-flesh. But by their personalities, they emotionally responded to Him differently.

Thomas’ doubts can make standards for others to uphold (“discernment” is often the Christian pc word for doubt). And So too with Peter’s “boldness” and John’s “tenderness”. The history of Christendom is replete with folks making doctrinal stands (and denominations) out of understandings based on feelings

But Jesus’ response was not to the feelings-driven-standards, but to the God-guided-principle:

He rebuked Thomas for his pride (I can know the truth), Peter for his pride (I can tell what is, or even do, God’s will), and John for his pride (I am God’s special choice).

As is obvious here, the principle in this instance is: God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble. That is, Christ taught the apostles, who tended to be led by their personalities, in principles, not standards. (If he had been concerned for standards, he would’ve washed his hands more, never gotten grain in the fields on a Sabbath, etc)

The point I am trying to make is that Ann Coulter’s point about our emotional tendency to miss the truth is well taken. We meet a homeless man that is a junkie, and we feel such compassion for him and his suffering. And it is easy, by listening to him, to feel that his wife or parents are unfeelingly cruel for finally forcing him out. But we forget to consider those unseen folks who have likely been hurt by the sin of the one we can see. As Ms. Coulter articulates so clearly, the emotion driven open-borders-because-I-have-deep-feelings-about-the-pain-I’ve-met-in-the-pew solution obscures the open-borders-have-caused-the-pain-I-haven’t-met truth.

I have been wrestling with this myself, though not re: the immigration issue. But in the issue of unseen family members harmed by the new church attendee who has many sad stories themselves, how do we respond? I like the way that the young pastor-son of my own pastor responds in his church: God and we accept you: but now cut out the sin against your family. It is Christ’s words to the woman caught in adultery in John 8:11. It’s not, “we accept you, so we will go tell your family that the things you’ve stolen from them to support your drug habit, they should’ve given them to you anyway.”

God’s compassion and love is unconditional. He loves us as we are. We do, after all, reflect his image, and what’s not to love about that image? But he also loves us enough to, and has the power to, change us into a greater goodness, a greater likeness of that so-easily-loved image.

The church member who looks at the illegal driver and says, “hey, they should change the laws so you won’t be driving illegally” needs to see past their own emotional feelings to say to the illegal who lost his car for driving illegally, “I will help you meet the needs of your family, but you must obey God by obeying the laws of this land” (1 Peter 2:13-14, amongst others). (And Ms. Coulter’s point on this is well taken too: we must actually HELP the suffering person, inviting them to our home, etc.)

It gives me pause to think about how the seen suffering can emotionally obfuscate the unseen suffering, and thereby twist the truth about what is a righteous and God-honoring response. God’s response is never, “you sinner! God hates fill-in-the-blank!” But neither is it ever, “Oh, your sin doesn’t really matter, it’s your suffering that God wants to alleviate by changing, not you, but the world that rejects your sin.”

I am my greatest problem, and the only good thing about the Christian walk is Jesus.

I could’ve spent pages on the list of my dh’s display of the hero’s virtues. But I think he would blush if he read it, so I’ll spare him and you, dear reader.

For there are so many others, ones who have been called beyond what he has, to the sacrifice of self in the worst of circumstances.

Christian martyrs like the ten Boom family come to mind. Saving others at the risk of their own safety, and ultimately their lives, is something we may be yet called to do in the future. Antisemitism has never been dead, and in this no-social-holds-barred world of Congressmen tweeting pictures of their underwear-clad nether parts to the whole world, antisemitism likewise has little or nothing to restrain its public display anymore. And just as true Christians like the ten Boom’s suffered the same fate as their Jewish brethren, so too I expect truly obedient Christians to suffer alongside the Jews today. Certainly they are in many areas of the Muslim world. As this nation has become more politically correct about this “religion of peace”, we have come to disdain those who wish to see Israel live in peace. It’s a soft persecution in this country right now, but the kind of life threatening persecution that Christians suffer in other nations is coming here. And sooner than we’d like to think, I believe.

Will we who call ourselves the children of the King stand for what is right, even if it will cost us our lives, or the lives of our loved ones? Or will we let others go down, and shutter our blinds to try to preserve our own skin?

We like to think ourselves heroes. We like to identify with the Joshua’s and Caleb’s of the world, not the other 10 spies. We like to identify with the ten Boom’s, thinking we would do the hard work of a hero when the time came. But will we sacrifice ourselves to save others?

Will we put on Christ, who sacrificed Himself to save others?

He is our model, This Hero. The men on the Titanic, soldiers, my husband, the ten Boom’s, these are only folks who modeled themselves after their King, filling up the sufferings of Christ. Will we stand by Him, or deny Him, when the first order hero’s test comes? For to let others suffer while we say nothing so as to save our skin, is to deny Him. It’s to say to an onlooking world, “unlike Meshash, Shadrach and Abednego, I do not believe my god will deliver me, and so I will do whatever it takes in order to deliver myself.”

Let this mind be in you, which also was in Christ Jesus, who though he was God, and thought it not robbery to be equal with God, he made himself of no reputation, and took upon himself the form of a servant, and became a man, who then humbled himself and obediently suffered on the cross. (Phil 2:5-8) This is how how Christ Himself became The Hero of the First Order. He suffered for others willingly. The verse before these says it: Let every man not just think about his own concerns, but let us concern ourselves with others (vs. 4). Here is the pattern for us would-be lesser heroes, this First and Truest Hero.

Let this mind be in me, Lord.

Is it rejection if someone says they see a need for character development in you? Are they rejecting you? Is your character “you”? What about your personality? Is THAT “you”? What’s the difference between character and personality? Which one is most important to God?

What is personality?

Personality is different for everyone. Are you outgoing or introverted? Are you artsy or comedic or stoic? Those are all personality traits. Personality makes you “you” and different from everyone else. Personality varies from person to person. It’s subjective. But it’s hard wired into you. Babies show their personalities from the earliest moments of their lives. Some are quiet, easygoing, restive. Others are loud, boisterous, and restless. These are personality traits, seen in the first days after birth. Baby number one may be more convenient for mom, but he’s not “good” while the other baby is “bad”.

We parents often make the mistake of confusing personality with character right here at the start, and begin to try to “form” the personality into that which we like. The “fun-loving” parents prod and push the sober kid. The sober, quiet parents sit on and squelch the outgoing kid.

What is character?

Character, unlike personality, is objective, timeless, and universally the same for all people. Honesty, thoughtfulness, responsibility, courage, loyalty… these are all character traits. They can be defined as right or wrong. And they can be taught. Babies don’t have character, or rather, they have only one character trait, because of Adam: selfishness. And we universally agree that selfishness is wrong.

So, how do personality and character play out in life? Well, you can find someone to be great fun (personality), but still not like being around them, because you can’t trust them (character).

Why the confusion?

Part of the confusion about what part of our makeup is inborn (personality) and what part is inbred (character) comes from the secular world of psychology and psychiatry.

So-called “personality disorders” are all too often “character disorders”.

For instance, ALL children are born attention deficit. Like the child at school who can’t stay focused on the teacher because there’s a fly on the screen, or they’re thinking about what’s for lunch, the baby is born easily distracted. His hand suddenly flies in front of his 3 week old face and he is temporarily distracted from screaming for food. We are actually GLAD for his distractibility and “attention deficit” at this age. We rattle a set of “baby keys” to distract the year old who wants to be picked up at an inconvenient time for us. In fact, toys and TV are used by parents to capture the focus of a child and put it on a momentary diversion while we clean, or cook, or whatever.

Likewise, all children are born with “oppositional defiance disorder” (ODD). They want what THEY want, NOW. And they are oppositional to us. They are defiant to the parent. “I hate you” is TOO common for it to be a “disorder” of any type. The word “disorder” implies something is not normal. But normal is what is common (by definition). If something is very common, then it is not a “disorder”.

And certainly every child is born with “narcissistic personality disorder”. The infant doesn’t think about anyone but himself, his wet diaper, his empty stomach, his loneliness. He doesn’t care, or care to know, that Mommy didn’t have a good night’s sleep, Daddy just lost his job, or whatever. He and his wants and needs are all he thinks about. Of course, this is to be expected in an infant, because he doesn’t yet have the cognitive ability to think of another’s needs.

The attention deficit child, defiant or narcissistic child may be bubbly, may be funny, may be artistic. All of these are personality traits. They have character disorders, not personality disorders.

So, what makes the attention deficit child pay attention? What makes the defiant child compliant? What makes the narcissistic child consider another person’s needs or wants?

Pain. And it’s true of the adult too.

Personality and Character in the Kingdom of God

And how do personality and character play out in being used by the Lord?

God created our personalities, and when He uses us, He uses us with our personalities intact. It’s easy to see God using the personality of the folks He chose to write the books of the Bible. Paul was sober, but Peter was more “out there”. Jeremiah was melancholy; David was artsy; James was fiery.

But until Peter got ahold of his impetuosity some, God wasn’t able to use him as much. For impulsiveness is a character trait, not a personality trait. Impulsiveness is what got Eve into trouble. It’s acting without thinking. That’s a character trait.

When parents, or even a child themselves, confuse personality with character, the results are not good. They try to change what cannot be changed without a sense of rejection on the kids’ part (personality), but they don’t work at changing what can be changed (character is “formed”; personality has “traits”). They leave thoughtlessness intact in the little soul, but try to change extroversion into introversion. This is what happens in conservative Christian families that try to make all their daughters into quiet little demure princesses, instead of letting them be the leader they were created to be. This happens in other families when Dad pushes his studious son to be a jock, etc.

Do the parents tell the child to pick up his room? They are asking for him to be orderly (a character trait). But you can’t tell a person to have character (character is taught, not told).

And parents aren’t the only ones that confuse personality and character, to their child’s hurt. The child himself does that, often learning to do it by the things he hears his parents say about themselves or others.

For instance, when the child says that he’s a “messy” and that that’s “just the way I am”, he confuses personality (which is “just the way we are”) with character. He excuses his poor character with a falsehood, with “that’s just me”.

What God Wants to Develop in Us is Character

2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

Giving means, introduce alongside. All diligence means with every speed, with earnestness and eagerness. So “giving all diligence” means that at the same time as you first believe, introduce the following character traits along with that newfound faith.

Those character traits are these:
Virtue, which means manliness, or valor. It’s a strength of will to do what is right when it’s hard. Valor and manliness is what men at war have, when they choose to do what is praiseworthy (the Greek word is translated “praises” at one point in the Bible), instead of what is easy. We show valor, or virtue as translated in the KJV, when we stick with the Christian life and way, even when it’s hard.

Knowledge is just that. It refers to knowledge of God and the things of God. As adults, even unsaved adults, we already have all sorts of knowledge. But as new Christians, we don’t have much knowledge of God or His ways. So we’re to add the character trait of pursuing knowledge of God.

Temperance is self-control. No one is born with that. As babies, we screamed as soon as we were wet, bored, lonely, a little hungry. Potty training is proof that self-control is a learned character trait. It must be taught, and we must put ourselves to learning it.

Patience is waiting, enduring with hope. In the Christian world it’s seen in us patiently waiting for the work of the Lord in another, flawed believer. It’s patiently (with hope) waiting for the answers to our prayers for ourselves and others.

Godliness is a learned character trait too. It’s holiness, or “god-like-ness”. (The -li- in the word godliness is a shortened form of the adjectival suffix “like”.) No child, biological or spiritual, has godliness in his “personality”. It’s a character trait that must be learned.

Brotherly kindness, or fraternal affection, seems like something that we all have intrinsically, for don’t we all love our families? But the automaticity of sibling fighting and rivalry should be a clue to us that brotherly kindness must be learned. Of course, the reference here is to brotherly kindness within the body of Christ, and God certainly wants us to cultivate that in our character makeup.

Finally, charity, or self-sacrificial love to all, is NEVER found in a “personality” naturally. Children never have it, except where it’s been taught.

So which matters to God most, character or personality?

First, to clarify, I believe the purpose of our lives is two-fold, regardless of what our life circumstances are like. First, we all have the purpose of being ministers of reconciliation, to the lost, and to the saved: the former to Christ for an initial encounter, and the latter to Christ in daily exhortation, encouragement, etc. And our second purpose in life is to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ ourselves. So the two purposes for our lives are to grow, and help others to grow.

Having said that, which does God want to use more for these stated purposes, our character or our personality? The answer is “all of the above”.

When we accidentally squelch our children’s personalities, by trying to mold them into another personality, we damage the vessel God intended to use. Can He still use it? Of course. But if He created a child with a high sense of humor, or a quick wit, or great intellect, or a preference for things physical over things esoteric, then He created that person the way He wanted them to be. The way He intended to use them.

But when we unwittingly leave untouched the selfish characteristics of our child, in any arena of life, thinking that it’s just a “stage of development” (another popular psychological buzzword) that they will somehow “grow out of”, we bring to adulthood a vessel whose character God must now re-mold before He can fully use that vessel.

What of the adult?

So what of the adult, whose parents tried to shoehorn them into another personality mold? Or whose parents didn’t care to, or know how to, mold their character for good?

If they are unsaved, they can, and do, try to get their personality back in line with how it was created to be, by lying on a psychiatrist’s couch for $100 a visit every week for the rest of their lives. Or taking Prozac for the anxiety that is the natural result of trying to be who you are not, to please those who think you should be something other than what God made you to be. And the unsaved can, and do, try to get their character in line with what will make them more effective in life, by reading Tony Robbins or other self-help gurus. But to what purpose? Selfishness usually lies at the root of character self-help efforts, for the unsaved don’t have a reason to be a useable vessel by Another.

But what of the saved adult? How does he get his personality back in line with how God created it to be? And how does he develop the character that he doesn’t have the character to develop? How does he make that list in 2 Peter happen?
He relies on God to be the re-maker of his personality, and to be the shaper of his character. And God is more than willing to do it. But the vessel must be a willing vessel.

And that means the vessel must be willing to hear of the need for change. Must be willing to delve into the pains that have stifled his personality. Must be willing to hear from others about his weaknesses of character.

And this is where the first questions I asked at the beginning come in.

Is it rejection when one brother says to another, “I see selfishness in your life with your wife”? Is it rejection when one sister says to another, “I struggle to not gossip in your presence, because all our conversations seem to go there”? Is it rejection when a parent says to their adult child, “I noticed you were inconsiderate that girl who is not your favorite friend”?

It can be. There ARE the “discerners” of the Christian community who think criticism is the “gift” God gave them for use on the body. They are serial rejecters, rejecting everyone in the name of the Lord. Ugh. These people are rarely used of the Lord, despite their belief to the contrary. But they are often used of the devil.

But when next someone tells you a hard-to-hear thing about yourself, ask yourself if that person is normally a rejecter of you or others. Is this a person who loves me? Is this a person who helps me when I’m having trouble in my life? Is this a person who has a pattern of kindness (“pattern” being the operative word here, since no-one is flawlessly, perpetually kind)?

These are the folks God wants to use in your life to help remake your crushed personality, or to mold your flawed character. They may tell you in flawed ways (they are flesh, after all), but God is forced to use flawed vessels to help flawed vessels. (He doesn’t have any other inventory.)

So, take what seems like rejection, and ask yourself if it’s said by a person who you know loves you, however feebly, and who loves the Lord, also however feebly. Then take it to God and ask Him to use it to “re-mold me, make me, like Thee divine”. But be careful you don’t take it to the devil. You’ll know the difference by whether it gives you hope to know this thing about yourself (“thank you Jesus for showing me a new area You’re going to fix”), or whether it makes you fearful, ashamed, depressed. God’s “training pain” always ends in hope.

And if ever I should tell you a thing you find hard to hear, know that I love you. 🙂 I will try to hear it from you with that in mind, too. 🙂

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-17/a-father-s-day-lesson-about-children-and-life-jeffrey-goldberg.html

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43453893/ns/us_news-life/